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Speaker 1:          00:00          Young had this idea that people's shadows reach all the way down to hell, which is a very frightening concept and what he meant by that is is that if you take a look at the impulses that drive you, that are actually malevolent, if you can admit to such impulses that if you basically follow those all the way down to their origin, you find some very nasty things and what you find down there basically as what allies you with people who've done terrible things and that that's not a very pleasant experience. I would say. Although one thing that's worth thinking about is that it is something that can protect you against being very, very badly hurt. Because one of the things that characterizes people who develop posttraumatic stress disorder is that they're often naive and then they encounter something that's really not within their framework of thinking and it's usually something bad and because there there isn't anything in their philosophy, their way of looking at the world that has prepared them for that.

Speaker 1:          01:03          They ended up fragmented and devastated and so it's actually protective to you. If you can figure out what your. What your full range of capabilities is because that can help you understand other people a lot better and and uh, to be wiser and more careful in your actions. It's also useful, I think if you want to convince yourself to act properly because if you regard yourself as harmless, which is a big mistake, then nothing you can do is really that bad, right? Because you're harmless after all. But if you understand that you're seriously not harmless, then that can make you a lot more careful with yourself. And I would say that, that that's especially true. Maybe when you're dealing, when you have kids and you start dealing with your kids. If you know that what you're capable of because you're human, then that can motivate you to be much more careful with what you say and do.

Speaker 1:          02:02          And I don't mean cautious. I don't mean timid. I don't. I don't mean any of that. I just mean that you want to keep things pristine between you and your children, let's say, because that way they're on your good side and you want them on your good side because children who get on their parents bad side suffer very badly for it and sometimes it's because they're literally abused, but more often it's because they get while they get abused, let's say, or neglected and much more subtle ways and you're definitely capable of that. I mean all you have to do is think about the way that you've interacted with someone that you've decided to not like or maybe someone you genuinely don't like. You know, and that can range from just not paying any attention to them, especially if they're doing something good to really pursuing them and making their life miserable. And you can certainly do that with your family members and you can do that with your intimate partner. So you can do that with your friends and you can do it with yourself. And so it's really worth knowing that so. Well, the Fox thinks he's royal rule breaker, but he's really just a two bit thug and this is where he. He learns that. So sorry, I have a new phone and I'm kind of stupid with it still so.

Speaker 1:          03:21          Well hypothetically that'll work, but it probably won't. Anyways. The, the coach ones got these guys in his grasp now regardless and partly because they're already down this road and they can't back off and partly because he also offers them more money than they've seen before and so as bad as they are, they're going to get worse. Many of you I presume have seen breaking bad and that's a really good example of the, of the incorporation at least in part or maybe the possession by the shadow from the Union perspective, right? Because you have this ordinary high school teacher who really thinks that he's an ax and his family as well. You know, like your typical persona. Roughly speaking, he's just a normal guy, but part of the reason that he's a normal guy is because he actually hasn't been put in abnormal circumstances and then all of a sudden he is and he has a genuine moral conundrum.

Speaker 1:          04:14          Right? He's going to die of lung cancer and his. He has a son who's got a lot of health problems and he's terrified that that he's going to leave his wife and his child behind with nothing and then of course as the story and so he decides to do something that temporarily that he regards as what they would normally regard as reprehensible. And of course he just gets tangled up in that. But then as the story unfolds, you see that there's. It's more complicated because it's not that he was just innocent, good guy and he decided to turn bad. He's also very resentful and angry and it's partly because he's a bit of a pushover at the beginning or maybe more than a bit of a pushover, and also that he didn't really fulfill his own potential and that, you know, he, he had friends who walked down the entrepreneurial path and maybe they weren't quite fair to him, but whatever, he ends up not very successful as a high school teacher.

Speaker 1:          05:08          So he's really angry about that. And so there's more motivation for him opening up the door to the terrible elements of his personality than just the fact that he's got good motivations to do so and that, that unfolds, you know, and so you see that warps and twists and is resentful. Character increasingly manifest themselves as he walks down this road to really total brutality. And it, it's, it's, it's quite good. Um, there's a book called ordinary men that's a lot like that. I don't think I've mentioned that to you before, but ordinary men is a book about. It's the best book of it's type. Maybe it's the only book of its type. It's possible, but it's plotted, much like breaking bad in some sense. It's a story about these German policemen in early stages of World War II and they were guys who were old enough to be raised in Germany really before the hitlarian propaganda came out in full force, you know, if you were a teenager, say in the 1930, so you are going to be pulled right into the propaganda machine and maybe you were part of the Hitler youth and like you were raised in that, you know, but if you were older than you were raised before that and you're not as amenable to propaganda once you're older than about.

Speaker 1:          06:19          While I would say about 22 or something like that. It's, it's pretty young actually. If you're gonna make a soldier, you have to get a soldier young because once people are in their early twenties, say they're kind of. They already have their personality developed. Anyways. These policemen were sent into Poland after the Germans marched through and uh, you know, it was wartime and there is this hypothesis in Germany that the Jews in particular, we're operating as a fifth column and undermining the German war effort because of course the Germans blamed the Jews and a variety of other people for actually setting up the conditions that made the war necessary. And so when the police were sent into Poland, they were also required to make peace roughly speaking. And so they started up by. They started out by rounding up all the Jewish men between 18 and 65 and gathering them in, in stadiums and then shipping them off on the trains.

Speaker 1:          07:13          But that isn't where they ended. They ended in a very, very dark place. I mean, these guys were going out in the field with naked pregnant women and shooting them in the back of the head by the end of their training. And what's really interesting about that is that is that their commander told him that they could go home at any time. So this is, this is not one of those examples of people following orders. And the reason they didn't, roughly speaking, there's many reasons, but one of the reasons they didn't is because they didn't think it was comradely, so to speak, to leave their, the guys they were working with to do all the dirty work and run off now. And that's really, that's really an interesting fact, you know, because you'd in, in different circumstances, you wouldn't think about that as reprehensible, right? You'd think, well that's part of teamwork and on your rough circumstances. And that's at least in part how they viewed it. And they were also made physically ill multiple times physically and psychologically ill by the things that they had to do. But they kept doing them anyways. So it's one step at a time. And that's the thing is that you end up in very bad places one step at a time. So you've gotta watch those steps.