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The sacrifice of the mother is
exemplified profoundly by Michelangelo's
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sculpture.
That Pie Ada,
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Mary is Contemplating Her son crucified
in ruins,
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so that's his body after he's being
crucified.
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It's her fault.
It was through her.
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He entered the great drama of being.
So what's the meaning of this sculpture?
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It's a great sculpture.
It's just an absolutely unbelievable
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sculpture.
You just can't believe that someone
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could exist who could make something up.
Of course it wasn't the only thing
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Michelangelo made,
right?
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It wasn't like that's it.
It was something he just tossed off in a
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couple of months while he was doing
other unbelievable things,
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but you know,
it's,
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it's an.
It's an object of contemplation,
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which is why it's integrate cathedral,
integrate city.
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It's an object of contemplation and the
idea is something like,
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what,
what?
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What's the role of a mother if she's
awake.
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I had a client come to see me a while
back,
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not very long ago,
woman in about who's about 30 and trying
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to make decisions about her life.
She was pretty career oriented and so I
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asked her about,
although maybe having a bit of trouble
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with their career,
I've seen this many,
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many times,
so this is an amalgam.
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This is a story that's an amalgam and I
talked to her about the other elements
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of your life.
It's like,
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Whoa,
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you know,
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there's only five things you do in life,
so you've got your career down,
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you know,
what do you do outside of your career
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that's meaningful and engaging.
How are things going with your family?
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Could be your family of origin,
your siblings,
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whatever.
Do you have an intimate relationship and
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like what's your plan for your own
family?
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And apart from those five things,
there's sort of something like get some
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exercise now and then don't eat too
badly and try to stay away from the
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drugs.
You know,
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that,
that kind of the crime that kind of lays
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out life.
And if you miss any of those five things
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or if you do any of those other things
wrong,
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then you're in trouble and you can get
away with missing a couple of them.
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But not all of them,
you know.
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And she said something along the lines
of,
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well,
I'm not sure I should bring a child into
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this world.
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And I thought,
Oh God,
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Christ,
you've got to come up with something
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better than that.
Such a bloody cliche,
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which is what I told her.
I said,
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you know,
he must've thought that up when you were
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16.
It's like,
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really?
That's your,
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that you can't do any better.
This was a very,
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very smart woman.
It's like creating your unique.
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You can't do any better than that.
It's like,
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yes,
obviously this is a veil of tears and a,
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you know,
a well of suffering and all of that.
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If you asked 30 people who are wondering
about having children,
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why they're wondering,
20 of them will say that.
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And so that tells you how original it
is.
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It's not original at all.
It's not a thought.
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It's like this little.
It's like a,
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it's like a,
it's a meme or something that lives in
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your mind.
It's not a thought and it's certainly
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not something.
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It's certainly not something that you
should just take it face value and say,
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oh,
well I'm not having a family.
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Then it's like,
no,
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no.
You kind of look at that and you
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criticize it a little bit.
It's like,
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well,
the pop,
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the.
It's the other one.
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That's the other one that's very common.
There's too many people on the planet
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already.
It's like,
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I really don't like that statement.
It's like,
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just who are you going to ask to leave?
Just how are you going to get them to
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leave?
You know?
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It's a serious question and who says
there's too many people?
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What the Hell's wrong with people?
Anyways?
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Sorry,
we're running around ruining the planet.
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Yeah,
so like I think it was the club of Rome
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who,
who prophesied by the way that there
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would be so many people on the planet by
the year 2000,
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that there would be widespread
starvation and they were completely and
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utterly wrong about that and I think it
was the club of Rome who either compared
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us to a virus or a cancer on the face of
the planet.
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It's like,
oh,
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really?
That's what you think about people a,
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aren't you something?
Isn't that something to think about?
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Human beings,
viruses and cancer.
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What do you do with viruses and cancer?
Invite them in and make them at home.
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It's like,
no,
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he tried to eradicate them.
If you've got a bloody well,
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watch your metaphors folks,
because it isn't clear that you come up
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with them or that they run you,
so you better watch him.
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So anyways,
Mary and Mary's the great mother,
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right?
That she's the mother.
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That's what Mary is.
Whether she existed or not is not the
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point.
She exists,
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at least as a hyper reality.
She exists as the mother.
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Well,
what's the sacrifice of the mother?
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Well,
that's easy.
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If you're a mother and you,
if you're a mother who's worth her salt,
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you offer your son to be destroyed by
the world.
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That's what you do.
I mean,
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that's what's going to happen,
right?
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He's gonna be born and he's going to
suffer.
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He's gonna have his trouble in life.
He's going to have his illnesses.
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He's going to face his failures and
catastrophes and he's going to die.
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That's what's going to happen.
And if you're awake,
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you know that,
and then you say,
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well,
perhaps he will live in a way that will
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justify that,
and then you try to have that happen and
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that's what makes you worthy of a statue
like that.
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But still the sacrifice of the mother.
Is it right to bring a baby into this
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terrible world?
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Well,
every woman asked yourself that
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question.
Some say no.
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And they have the reasons Mary answers
yes.
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Voluntarily.
Mary is the archetype of the woman who
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answers yes to life voluntarily.
That's what that image means.
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And not because she's blind,
she knows what's going to happen.
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And so she's the archetipal
representation of the woman who says yes
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to life knowing full well what
[inaudible] life is not naive,
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not someone who got pregnant in the
backseat of the 1957 Chevy,
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you know,
in one,
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in a,
one night of,
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of,
of,
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of half drunk idiocy.
Not that,
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but consciously,
consciously knowing what's to come and
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then also allows it to happen.
Because that's another thing that's a
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testament to the courage of mothers.
And My mother was good at this.
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My mother's a very agreeable person too,
agreeable for her own good,
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but that's what happens if you're
agreeable because you're too agreeable
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if for your own good.
That's the definition of agreeable.
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And so she's a nice person and still is.
Luckily she's still alive and we've had
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a very good relationship and I have
always been able to make her laugh,
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which is,
which is a good thing.
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And,
but she was tough cookie.
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That woman,
you know,
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if,
if,
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uh,
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remember once she came across,
I was out playing in this spec baseball
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diamond,
little diamond in the empty lot.
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Really in this little town I grew up in.
I was about 10 and she walked by.
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I was there with a bunch of my friends
and I was about to have a fistfight with
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this little tough kid that I hung around
with.
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And there were half girls on the team
and the fistfight had some relationship
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to status maneuvering,
you know,
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in relationship to that.
Anyways,
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we're going to have a fight.
And my mum walked by,
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she took a look and I could see from her
demeanor that she knew exactly what was
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about to happen and she looked for a
second and then she walked by and I
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thought,
Whoa,
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good work mom.
No kidding.
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Hey.
It's like last bloody thing I needed at
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that moment was for her to come charge
it up and say,
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you boys aren't planning to have a
fight,
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are you?
It's like,
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well yeah mom,
where we're actually planning to have a
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fight and now that you came and
intervened.
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I actually lost before the God damn
thing even started.
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So two thumbs up for mum.
She was also the person that said
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because I had some trouble with my dad
when I was a kid,
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adolescent,
he had some trouble with me.
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So you know,
it was 50 slash 50.
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That's for now,
it's probably 70 slash 30 with me on the
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70 end of that being the trouble.
And anyways,
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I left home when I was about 17 and she
said something really interesting when I
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left home.
She said it was too good at home.
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You'd never leave.
I thought,
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hey mom,
that's pretty good,
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you know,
for,
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for an agreeable person,
you've got a real spine man.
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So that was pretty good.
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So.
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So you know,
mother that says this,
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the mother is the person who also says,
get out there,
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take your God damn lumps because you're
tough enough so that you can handle it.
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She doesn't say you just stayed down
there in your bedroom bruiting away
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because the world is unfair and treating
you badly and your suffering is too
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much.
She says,
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yeah,
there's a lot of suffering out there,
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but you're a hell of a lot tougher than
you think you are.
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So.