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Okay,
one of the things that I've figured out
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over the last years is this is a good
proposition,
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so you know,
it's pretty self evident that life is
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has got its rat's nest of miseries and
that's for sure,
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and maybe you could even make a
categorical statement that life is
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mostly a rat's nest of misery.
You know,
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when you could make a pretty powerful
argument for that,
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but then there's a counter question
which is,
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well,
what if you tried not to make it any
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more miserable than it had to be?
Right?
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Then what?
Then what would it be like?
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And my suspicions are,
is that lot of misery.
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I would suspect that most of that misery
would go away because it's the
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unnecessary misery that really brings
you down.
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You know?
It's like,
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well,
if someone has cancer,
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it's like that sucks,
but it's not like.
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It's not like you can say,
if only we had done this differently
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than that wouldn't have happened,
but when someone's out like torturing
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you in a malevolent way or maybe you're
doing the same,
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you can always ask yourself,
was really,
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is this really necessary?
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Is this just like an useless add onto
the miseries of life?
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That's what disheartens people,
and so even in your own life,
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if,
if you,
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if,
if you aren't suffering from self
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imposed misery and you're only suffering
from an escapable misery,
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maybe you could handle that and you know
who you could,
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you could survive,
you could bear it,
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and even maybe without becoming
irredeemably corrupt,
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so the goal would be,
well,
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yeah,
life is a rat's nest of miseries and
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maybe it has no ultimate meaning.
We could say that if we're feeling
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particularly pessimistic,
but it still leaves one question open,
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which is if you didn't do everything you
could to make it worse,
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how good could you make it be?
And the least answer is,
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well,
it could be tragedy,
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but maybe not hell.
And I think that's right.
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I really believe that that's the most
pessimistic proper statement.
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The worst case outcome in the worst of
all possible worlds is that your life
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could be tragic but not hell.
And that's a lot better than hell.
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Right?
And you think I could give you an
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example of the difference.
You're at your mother's death bed.
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Well,
that's tragedy.
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Here's another scenario.
You're out of your mother's death bed
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and all you,
you and all your idiot siblings are
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arguing.
Well that's the difference between
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tragedy and hell and you might be able
to tolerate the first circumstance and
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maybe it would even bring you closer
together with your family members.
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The second one,
no one can bear that.
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You walk away from a situation like
that.
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Sick of yourself and sick of everything
else too and you know,
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it's often the case that tragic
circumstances bring out the dragons
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because the stress is high and all those
things that people haven't dealt with,
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they don't have the energy to repress
and,
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and all the bitterness comes pouring
forward.
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So like seriously man it is.
So that's actually a good.
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It's a rough lesson but it's a good
hallmark for figuring out whether or not
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you're.
You've got yourself adjusted properly
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and in relationship to your siblings.
It's like if you were all gathered
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around the bed,
if someone close who was dying,
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could you manage it?
If the answer is no,
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it's like,
well,
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put your life together because it's
going to happen and you should be the
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person who's there that can do it and do
it properly,
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and then maybe you'd find that it isn't
the sort of thing that will undermine
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your faith in life itself.
And I've seen,
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I've seen both of those situations,
you know,
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ugly,
ugly,
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ugly situations,
murderously,
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ugly situations,
and then they're opposite where people
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have had terrible things happen and to
happen to them as a family and you know,
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they pulled together and they rebuild
their damn ship and they sail away.
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And so that seems to me to be a lot
better.
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That makes,
you know,
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uh,
when the flood comes,
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right?
Well,
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okay,
so the same thing.
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The question emerges,
well,
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who are you?
Well,
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you could say you're this plan.
That's what people usually,
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that's how people usually identified.
Maybe they have no plan at all and
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they're just in chaos,
right?
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That's like being in the belly of the
beast.
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They're nihilistic and chaos.
They have no plan.
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They're just chaos itself.
And that's a very dreadful situation for
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people to be in,
or maybe they conjured together a plan
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that's their identity.
It's kind of fragile and they're holding
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onto that with with everything they've
got.
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It's their little stick award that
they're floating in the ocean clinging
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to,
you know?
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And so they're identifying really hard
with that plan.
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That's what happens when you're an idiot
log has that.
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You're identifying really hard with that
plan.
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The problem is if something comes up to
confront it,
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well,
how do you act?
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What you can't let go with the plan
because you drown.
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When you cling to it rigidly.
Well that's no good because then you
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can't learn anything.
Then if that's you,
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you're a totalitarian,
you're going to learn anything.
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You're going to end up in something
that's close enough to hell so that you
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won't know the difference and you might
drag everyone along with you.
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Now it's happened plenty of times,
right?
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It's the whole story of the 20th
century.
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It happened over and over and over,
and it happens in people's states.
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It happens in their business
organizations.
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It happens in their cities.
It happens in their provinces,
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it happens in their states,
and it happens in their psyches all at
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the same time.
You can't blame the manifestation of
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that sort of thing on any of those
levels.
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It happens when a society goes down that
way.
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It goes down everywhere at the same
time.
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It's not the totalitarians at the top
and all the happy people striving to be
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free at the bottom.
It's not that at all.
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It's totalitarianism at every single
level of the hierarchy,
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including the psychological and so you
don't want to be the thing.
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You don't want to be in chaos,
that's for sure,
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but you don't want to be the thing that
clings so desperately to the raft that
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you can't let go.
When someone comes to rescue you,
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right?
You don't want to be that,
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so then you think,
well,
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exactly what are you?
You're not the chaos.
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You're not the plan.
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Maybe you're the thing that confronts
the obstacle,
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and I would say that's the categorical
lesson of of psychology in so far as it
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has to do with personal transformation
because that's what you always teach
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people in psychotherapy.
I don't care what sort of
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psychotherapist you are,
you're always teaching them the same
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thing.
You're the thing that can.
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You're not.
You're the planned.
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You're the thing that can confront the
obstacle to the plant and then when you
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know even further that the obstacle is
not only an obstacle,
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but opportunity itself will then your
whole view of the world can change
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because you might think,
well,
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I've got this planned.
Something came up to object to it.
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It's like it's possible that the thing
that's objecting has something to teach
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you that will take you to the place
where you develop it.
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Even better plant and it's a nice
framework to use.
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It's like,
are you so sure that this is a problem?
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Is that the only way that you can look
at it?
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Or is it an opportunity?
I mean,
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I'm not trying to be,
you know,
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naive,
optimistic.
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There are some things that's pretty hard
to extract gold from some dragons and
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maybe the death of a family member is a
good example of that.
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But even in a situation like that,
I can tell you that it's an opportunity
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for.
It's an opportunity for maturation,
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that's for sure.
And the thing is you might say,
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well,
it's pretty miserable to go to be
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digging for gold when someone's falling
into the grave.
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Well,
if they really love you,
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first of all,
that's what they'll want you to do,
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and second,
you're going to make their death a lot
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more palatable experience for them.
If you're someone who can be in the room
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and be helpful instead of being,
you know,
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quivering in the corner and feeling that
the entire world is collapsing in on
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you.
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I mean,
that's another.
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You want to be the useful person at the
funeral.
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How's that for a goal?
That's a good goal,
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man.
You know that you've got yourself
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together in a situation like that
because you're going to be after and
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maybe you want to be the person on whose
shoulder people cry.
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That'd be a good goal and it's Kinda,
you know,
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I don't like being naively optimistic.
So when I tell you to get your life
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together,
I'm not going to say roses and sunshine.
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It's like,
that's,
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that's,
that's,
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that's Pablum for fools.
But it really is something to be the
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reliable person at a funeral.
Right?
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And you can aim it that you can do that.
You gotta be tough to do that because it
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also means that you can sustain a major
loss without collapsing and that you've
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got to be a monster to do that.
Right?