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Young had this idea that people's
shadows reach all the way down to hell,
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which is a very frightening concept and
what he meant by that is is that if you
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take a look at the impulses that drive
you,
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that are actually malevolent,
if you can admit to such impulses that
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if you basically follow those all the
way down to their origin,
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you find some very nasty things and what
you find down there basically as what
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allies you with people who've done
terrible things and that that's not a
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very pleasant experience.
I would say.
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Although one thing that's worth thinking
about is that it is something that can
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protect you against being very,
very badly hurt.
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Because one of the things that
characterizes people who develop
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posttraumatic stress disorder is that
they're often naive and then they
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encounter something that's really not
within their framework of thinking and
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it's usually something bad and because
there there isn't anything in their
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philosophy,
their way of looking at the world that
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has prepared them for that.
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They ended up fragmented and devastated
and so it's actually protective to you.
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If you can figure out what your.
What your full range of capabilities is
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because that can help you understand
other people a lot better and and uh,
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to be wiser and more careful in your
actions.
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It's also useful,
I think if you want to convince yourself
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to act properly because if you regard
yourself as harmless,
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which is a big mistake,
then nothing you can do is really that
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bad,
right?
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Because you're harmless after all.
But if you understand that you're
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seriously not harmless,
then that can make you a lot more
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careful with yourself.
And I would say that,
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that that's especially true.
Maybe when you're dealing,
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when you have kids and you start dealing
with your kids.
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If you know that what you're capable of
because you're human,
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then that can motivate you to be much
more careful with what you say and do.
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And I don't mean cautious.
I don't mean timid.
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I don't.
I don't mean any of that.
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I just mean that you want to keep things
pristine between you and your children,
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let's say,
because that way they're on your good
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side and you want them on your good side
because children who get on their
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parents bad side suffer very badly for
it and sometimes it's because they're
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literally abused,
but more often it's because they get
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while they get abused,
let's say,
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or neglected and much more subtle ways
and you're definitely capable of that.
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I mean all you have to do is think about
the way that you've interacted with
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someone that you've decided to not like
or maybe someone you genuinely don't
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like.
You know,
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and that can range from just not paying
any attention to them,
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especially if they're doing something
good to really pursuing them and making
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their life miserable.
And you can certainly do that with your
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family members and you can do that with
your intimate partner.
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So you can do that with your friends and
you can do it with yourself.
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And so it's really worth knowing that
so.
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Well,
the Fox thinks he's royal rule breaker,
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but he's really just a two bit thug and
this is where he.
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He learns that.
So sorry,
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I have a new phone and I'm kind of
stupid with it still so.
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Well hypothetically that'll work,
but it probably won't.
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Anyways.
The,
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the coach ones got these guys in his
grasp now regardless and partly because
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they're already down this road and they
can't back off and partly because he
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also offers them more money than they've
seen before and so as bad as they are,
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they're going to get worse.
Many of you I presume have seen breaking
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bad and that's a really good example of
the,
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of the incorporation at least in part or
maybe the possession by the shadow from
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the Union perspective,
right?
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Because you have this ordinary high
school teacher who really thinks that
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he's an ax and his family as well.
You know,
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like your typical persona.
Roughly speaking,
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he's just a normal guy,
but part of the reason that he's a
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normal guy is because he actually hasn't
been put in abnormal circumstances and
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then all of a sudden he is and he has a
genuine moral conundrum.
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Right?
He's going to die of lung cancer and
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his.
He has a son who's got a lot of health
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problems and he's terrified that that
he's going to leave his wife and his
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child behind with nothing and then of
course as the story and so he decides to
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do something that temporarily that he
regards as what they would normally
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regard as reprehensible.
And of course he just gets tangled up in
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that.
But then as the story unfolds,
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you see that there's.
It's more complicated because it's not
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that he was just innocent,
good guy and he decided to turn bad.
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He's also very resentful and angry and
it's partly because he's a bit of a
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pushover at the beginning or maybe more
than a bit of a pushover,
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and also that he didn't really fulfill
his own potential and that,
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you know,
he,
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he had friends who walked down the
entrepreneurial path and maybe they
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weren't quite fair to him,
but whatever,
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he ends up not very successful as a high
school teacher.
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So he's really angry about that.
And so there's more motivation for him
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opening up the door to the terrible
elements of his personality than just
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the fact that he's got good motivations
to do so and that,
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that unfolds,
you know,
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and so you see that warps and twists and
is resentful.
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Character increasingly manifest
themselves as he walks down this road to
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really total brutality.
And it,
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it's,
it's,
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it's quite good.
Um,
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there's a book called ordinary men
that's a lot like that.
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I don't think I've mentioned that to you
before,
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but ordinary men is a book about.
It's the best book of it's type.
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Maybe it's the only book of its type.
It's possible,
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but it's plotted,
much like breaking bad in some sense.
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It's a story about these German
policemen in early stages of World War
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II and they were guys who were old
enough to be raised in Germany really
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before the hitlarian propaganda came out
in full force,
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you know,
if you were a teenager,
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say in the 1930,
so you are going to be pulled right into
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the propaganda machine and maybe you
were part of the Hitler youth and like
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you were raised in that,
you know,
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but if you were older than you were
raised before that and you're not as
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amenable to propaganda once you're older
than about.
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While I would say about 22 or something
like that.
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It's,
it's pretty young actually.
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If you're gonna make a soldier,
you have to get a soldier young because
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once people are in their early twenties,
say they're kind of.
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They already have their personality
developed.
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Anyways.
These policemen were sent into Poland
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after the Germans marched through and
uh,
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you know,
it was wartime and there is this
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hypothesis in Germany that the Jews in
particular,
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we're operating as a fifth column and
undermining the German war effort
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because of course the Germans blamed the
Jews and a variety of other people for
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actually setting up the conditions that
made the war necessary.
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And so when the police were sent into
Poland,
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they were also required to make peace
roughly speaking.
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And so they started up by.
They started out by rounding up all the
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Jewish men between 18 and 65 and
gathering them in,
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in stadiums and then shipping them off
on the trains.
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But that isn't where they ended.
They ended in a very,
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very dark place.
I mean,
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these guys were going out in the field
with naked pregnant women and shooting
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them in the back of the head by the end
of their training.
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And what's really interesting about that
is that is that their commander told him
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that they could go home at any time.
So this is,
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this is not one of those examples of
people following orders.
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And the reason they didn't,
roughly speaking,
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there's many reasons,
but one of the reasons they didn't is
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because they didn't think it was
comradely,
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so to speak,
to leave their,
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the guys they were working with to do
all the dirty work and run off now.
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And that's really,
that's really an interesting fact,
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you know,
because you'd in,
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in different circumstances,
you wouldn't think about that as
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reprehensible,
right?
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You'd think,
well that's part of teamwork and on your
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rough circumstances.
And that's at least in part how they
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viewed it.
And they were also made physically ill
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multiple times physically and
psychologically ill by the things that
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they had to do.
But they kept doing them anyways.
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So it's one step at a time.
And that's the thing is that you end up
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in very bad places one step at a time.
So you've gotta watch those steps.