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It's the beginning of the lecture,
but how do,
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how does morality from
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stronger and weaker to what's good and
what is it?
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Well,
I think it depends to some degree on
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what you mean by stronger.
So physical strength is one element and
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like if you look at mythological heroes,
imagine that the stories of heroes are
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fragmented elements of,
uh,
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of the archetype.
And so one kind of archetypal hero
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obviously as someone who's physically
strong,
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you know,
you see that there's a great movie that
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you could watch about this.
It's called Hitman Hart.
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It's one of the best documentaries I've
ever seen and it's about this guy named
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Bret Harte.
Bret Harte was for awhile,
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the most famous Canadian on the planet,
and he was a worldwide wrestling
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foundation,
I think.
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What did they call that?
Wwf?
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Yeah,
he was there,
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like lead good guy.
And so he and wrestling,
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I love the documentary because when I
was a little kid,
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like four or five,
I used to watch his father whose name
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was Stu Hart,
who ran this channel,
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this wrestling confederation in Alberta.
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And Stu Hart had I think eight boys and
he trained all of them to be pro
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wrestlers and part of the movie is
extraordinarily funny because Stu Hart
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is in it and he's really old.
He's like 85 and he's just barely.
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Can you imagine?
He was like a pro wrestler for 40 years,
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like every joint is broken and he still
big but he's just barely moving and this
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is this kid and another kid come over
and I'm.
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Stu is telling the story about how it
used to take his boys into the basement
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and toughen them up.
And I think Brett called that the
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journey to pain or something like that.
His father would take all these kids
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down there and wrestle with them and
push them right to the edge of their
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pain tolerance constantly.
And so.
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And anyways,
they grew up tough.
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There's no doubt about that.
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And all his daughters married pro
wrestlers to.
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And I think he had seven daughters.
So he's quite the character anyways.
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These two kids,
they're like their late adolescence,
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early adulthood come over and one of
them's pretty damn cocky and he's
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listening to Stewart.
He says something smart like,
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well,
you know,
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you were pretty,
you were pretty tough with the old days.
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Hey,
and stew looks at them and says,
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well,
why?
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Why don't you come down to the basement
with me?
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And he says,
look,
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I don't want to hurt you old man.
And so,
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so they're filmmakers follow them into
the basement day and like they're kind
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of standing there and the old guy grabs
him in a headlock.
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It takes him like,
he's like a snake,
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a,
he's got her in a headlock like so fast
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that the kid doesn't know what to do.
And then.
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So stew,
like,
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who knows how to put a headlock on
someone.
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He's flexing his,
his uh,
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his uh,
his,
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his forearm.
Yeah.
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Which is still not so bad.
A forearm and he's got this guy's face
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is just,
he's just,
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he's like,
he's stepped in a bear trap.
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Plus he's absolutely shocked that this
old guy got him.
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And so he's kind of gasping and stu says
something like,
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you watch,
if I flex this just right,
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and you can see this vein on his
forehead start to pop out.
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It's extraordinarily funny.
Anyways,
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Bret Hart plays out the good guy
archetype and Brett's like,
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he's a solid guy,
but he's,
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I would say he's not particularly
sophisticated and I'm not being cruel
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about that.
I mean he had a great career and he's
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tough as a boot and so good for him,
but he plays out this,
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this good guy archetype and he gets
tangled up in it.
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And now I don't remember your damn
question,
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but I am trying to answer it.
Tell me the question again.
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Oh yes,
yes.
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Okay.
Exactly.
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Well,
so one of the things I really liked
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about this movie was it showed me why
people watched wrestling and I couldn't,
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I couldn't because certainly they're not
appealing and I'm not being.
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There are different strata of conception
of abstraction that any entertainment
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process has to appeal to.
And you know,
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most people don't go to movies and
that's actually because it really is
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because movies operate at a level of
sophistication that are too high,
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that is too high for many people just
like novels.
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I mean hardly anyone reads,
you know,
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and if you about 15 percent of the
population might be 20 percent cannot
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read well enough to follow written
instructions and so and,
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and they and people who are,
maybe it's 15 percent of the population
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or 10 percent have never finished a
book,
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never.
And so,
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and it is that high,
but,
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but you still,
you're still,
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the archetypes still needs to manifest
itself at different levels and so it
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manifests itself in wrestling,
but even there where it is physical
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force,
it's not just physical force,
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like it's a drama between good and evil
and you can see this so clearly and in
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the Bret Hart documentary,
because he's the good guy and you know,
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the bad guys are really over the top
bad.
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It's a real drama.
It's like it's good versus evil in the
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rain every time.
And hopefully good winds but good often
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gets,
you know,
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maybe the bad wrestler brings two of his
friends in and they bring in chairs and
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they bashed the hell out of the good
guy.
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And the whole audience is just outraged
by this.
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And and the documentary does a lovely
job of showing that,
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but so even at the level of physical
combat,
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let's say you can't reduce what's good
to what strong is just one element of it
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better to be strong than to be weak and
so you can have a strong hero because
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it's better to be strong than to be
weak,
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but it's better to be strong and kind
than to be strong and it's better to be
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strong and kind and wise than to be
strong and kind and so.
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And that's true not only for human
beings but it's even true,
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let's say at the wolf for the chimpanzee
level because one of the things you see
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with the chimp dominance hierarchies if,
and I think I mentioned this before,
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is if the leader,
the dominant male is really good at
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fostering social relations and being
reciprocal in acts like grooming and
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also paying attention to the females and
their offspring.
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His dynasty will be much more stable and
so strong might be good for one battle.
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It might be good for two battles,
but for 50 battles it's not optimized.
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Especially because no law,
no matter how strong you are,
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someone can take you out,
so,
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so what happens is the idea of what's
ideal becomes increasingly complex
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across time,
multifaceted,
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right,
and so strength,
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wisdom,
intelligence,
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vision,
all these things are amalgamated into a
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single ba and we'll talk a lot about
that because I want to show you how that
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happened in Mesopotamia because that's
one of the first places where we have
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documentation about how that ideally
merged.
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They have a god called Marduk and Martin
had 50 names and as far as I can tell,
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the reason for that was that mark was an
amalgam of the tribal Dante's of at
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least 50 tribes and and when the within
tribes were brought together and
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civilized,
each of their gods who were ideals had
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to be amalgamated into something that
was a single,
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a single dramatized representation of
value.
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Or there was no way that all those
people could have lived together.
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Right?
There are different value structures
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would have fragmented them and they
would have stayed in a state of war.
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And so the question is,
what's the question you're asking?
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If it's not strength than what is it?
Well,
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it's strength is an element,
but the Egyptians figured out that it
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was.
Vision is actually the capacity to pay
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attention.
That was paramount and the Mesopotamians
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have that figured out more or less too,
because they're god.
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Marduk had eyes all the way around his
head.
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He could see everywhere.
So seeing was a critical element of what
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should be on top.
And the other thing for the
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Mesopotamians was the ability to speak.
So by the time of Mesopotamia,
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people that already dramatized the idea
that the cardinal human attributes,
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our vision and the ability to speak so
and not be the ability to speak the
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truth,
to not just speak so.