- Jeanne DeWitt, Stripe
- Andre Lyver, Shopify
- Mary Buckley, Xero https://www.xero.com/us/
- Martin del Rosario, Remitly https://www.remitly.com/us/en/
- Focus on historically underserved users: immigrants and SMBs (small and midsized businesses)
- Stripe solves the accounts receivable side very well (how much money do I have?)
- In order for SMBs to pay their providers (who do I owe?) they have to bring in another provider outside of Stripe
- Shopify offers "Shopify Capital" as a way to inject funds to small businesses.
- How does an immigrant build credit? How do we solve this problem?
- Cash isn't good enough in order to thrive in the new country.
- only 30% of payments for businesses are done electronically on Xero
- Checks are still predominant
- Payments is now a major revenue stream for Shopify
- Expanding their financing and billing platform
- Creating a seamless experience
How much of the payments stack do you bring in house?
- Standard Connect
- Xero uses this. Their aspiration is to build the best accounting platform.
- Xero would rather focus their energy on building a better end product and partner with Stripe on the risk management/settlement.
- Custom Connect (whitelabel)
- Shopify uses this, (4k employees)
- build vs buy vs partner vs acquire vs fork
- Shopify is a commerce company, not a payments company
How do you figure out which markets to prioritize?
- Remitly founder spent time in Kenya and it allowed him to better understand the problem
- Some markets make sense to launch together (ones with similar local compliance requirements)
- Launching Canada and US are two completely different compliance markets
- Next big bet is Asia Pacific
- Shopify payments are available in 10 countries
- Real creativity comes when constraints are applied.
- Strike the balance between feature development and infrastructure.
Closing thoughts
- Payouts are hard due to the fragility of the destination
- Would be great in the future to have a closed loop: have payouts and payin ride the same rails
- More collaboration with the government
- We're still stuck with ACH after all these years in US.