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Scaling Airbnb to 191 countries and millions of hosts

Speakers

  • Logan Vander Linden, Payments Partnerships Airbnb
  • James Dyett, Head of Strategic Accounts Stripe

Notes

  • We are less concerned about the demand rather than the supply
  • We have to optimize for the Host experience
    • the importance of the supply side is tantamount at Airbnb
    • they have a chief economist at Airbnb
    • the seller side
    • payout in 65 currencies
  • They could have set up a system where the guest payment is tied to the host payout, but they decided not to.
    • They do hedging for fx trading in order to achieve this; they manage all of this
    • They have a treasury guru who is an expert on this
    • They have a guy who watches the price of oil and how that affects our settlement currencies and our currency position.

At what time do you decide to enter a new market?

  • They follow an expand and then optimize pattern.
  • They potentially acquire local acquiring partners.
  • You cannot copypasta the US model.
  • How long does it take treasury to open that local bank account? Sometimes it will take 12 months to open an account.
  • Sometimes it's not clear from a card scheme to an acquirers perspective. You have to validate your information across all parnters.
  • If you think you're processing legally because your acquirer said it's ok, you need to ask again.
  • They had to rearchitect their platform to support decimales.
  • Gateway, acquirer, card scheme are the major stakeholders.
  • Airbnb supports cash in Cuba.
  • Airbnb teams: Treasury, Legal, Tax, Product, Financial Infrastructure

Complex payments stack

  • Airbnb has a lot of countries
  • Temporal issue: the time of the charge and the time of the payment, now the treasury guru needs to look at the price of oil.
  • What's harder, paying out to guests or paying out to hosts.
  • Payouts are a much harder problem, you don't have the same notification/response feedback loop as you have with pay in.
    • Example, they need the host to call them to tell them they haven't recieved their funds.
    • Payin is API based, pay out is batched files (you need to buy a lot of Boba tea lol)
  • Payouts are hard. Global is hard.

Operations

  • Airbnb optimizes for operational maintenance. Need to know predictability of cost.
  • Does the partner's portal meet the needs of Airbnb's ops team?
  • 10% of our hosts in the US are teachers
  • largest segments of hosts in the US are women over the age of 50

Reporting

  • The quality of reporting in this industry is varied.
    • Interchange, scheme fees.
    • Money movement on refunds and chargebacks.
    • Sometimes it's just one invoice, good luck trying to reconcile that.
    • If you want to move towards public trading company, you have to be able to predict your revenue and optimize for reporting.

Closing Thoughts

  • Two sided marketplaces are tough. Incentivize employees to use your product.
  • Build a team of practical thinkers and planners who are really going to manage the project.
  • You have to be disciplined. Someone needs to be buttoned up and tight on the details.
  • Do your extra due diligence up front.
  • Don't spend too much money on marketing.
  • The Network effect is what gets you to the Airbnb level. You need people to come back and talk about the product and build community.

Future of Payments

  • We've been exchanging value since the beginning of time.
  • Real time is now happening.
  • Your ability to communicate with the global is going to be facilitated by payments.
  • Obstacle to bringing the world closer together is payments.
  • It's tied to digital identity.
  • We need to mitigate threat of someone's ability to steal payments online.
  • Place of innovation: Asia
  • Demonitization in India, market penetration in China/India
  • Several emerging markets are skipping steps in terms of what they would adopt payment wise.

Additional Reading

List of Articles, Panels, Talks, and Interviews from Payments Team @ Airbnb

https://gist.github.com/polinadotio/3aaa73df5d15ad00cd3fab5150960c69