Remind user to setup and execute backups

[spotlesscoder]

Problem

Most average users I know like for example parents and grandparents of my friends at some point lose some or all of their data because they don’t have an offline backup

Proposal

Display a notification every now and then when there is no proper backup software configured for the currently logged in user.

Ubuntu already does this. They use deja-dup as backup software if I remember correctly. The same software should also work nicely with wirh elementaryos abd should be installed with elementary by default

Prior Art (Optional)

No response

[danirabbit]

I’m going to transfer this to settings-daemon since there’s no background process for Files.

I’m not really sure about sending notifications about not having configured a backup tool. I can see sending notifications if a configured backup wasn’t completed or hasn’t been done in a while etc. but I would assume that the backup software itself should cover that case?

[spotlesscoder]

From a technical perspective, yes.

But that requires a backup software to be installed.

[teamcons]

A system that asks itself to be configurated, separately from onboarding, feels very awkward. Even more so if there isnt even a backup tool preinstalled.

Would it not make more sense to integrate something like this into housekeeping ?
Backups are a solved issue, there are plenty of commandline tools that do that. Maybe something very simple can be set from there, to schedule something basic. But this would require design.

[spotlesscoder]

A system that asks itself to be configurated, separately from onboarding, feels very awkward. Even more so if there isnt even a backup tool preinstalled.

That is a subjective opinion. I think this would be very useful as the average non-technical experienced PC user I know never makes backups and then I get stressful calls "all my data is gone, please help me"
I would suggest that deja-dup is preinstalled (the tool that is preinstalled on vanilla Ubuntu Desktop)

Would it not make more sense to integrate something like this into housekeeping ? Backups are a solved issue, there are plenty of commandline tools that do that. Maybe something very simple can be set from there, to schedule something basic. But this would require design.

I would integrate it in housekeeping and additionally at least once (only once) prompt the user a few weeks after installation of the OS to setup backups
I would not use a commandline tool

[teamcons]

A system that asks itself to be configurated, separately from onboarding, feels very awkward. Even more so if there isnt even a backup tool preinstalled.

That is a subjective opinion. I think this would be very useful as the average non-technical experienced PC user I know never makes backups and then I get stressful calls "all my data is gone, please help me" I would suggest that deja-dup is preinstalled (the tool that is preinstalled on vanilla Ubuntu Desktop)

Would it not make more sense to integrate something like this into housekeeping ? Backups are a solved issue, there are plenty of commandline tools that do that. Maybe something very simple can be set from there, to schedule something basic. But this would require design.

I would integrate it in housekeeping and additionally at least once (only once) prompt the user a few weeks after installation of the OS to setup backups I would not use a commandline tool

the latter seems fair if there is a backup tool preinstalled and user skipped that page on onboarding.