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Satellite on EXPID=153715 (TILEID=22380) #75

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araichoor opened this issue Nov 21, 2022 · 8 comments
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Satellite on EXPID=153715 (TILEID=22380) #75

araichoor opened this issue Nov 21, 2022 · 8 comments

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@araichoor
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on night=20221116, I think a satellite crossed the exposure expid=153715 for tileid=22380.
I don t know if some action should be taken here (maybe not).
maybe some masking for the LSS catalog? (@ashleyjross).

see:

spacewatch-153715.mp4

the spacewatch image sampling is one every two minutes: the satellite is visible at the tile location on the one on 01:24:05 (UTC)
the 153715 exposure started at 01:24:39 (UTC).

sframesky-153715

if I take the median flux of the sky fibers, flag fibers with FLUX > 10, I identify those three fibers: 1209, 1800, 2639 which are aligned, consistent with the satellite orientation (crude estimate : dec = 1.13 + 0.89 * (ra - 330)):
tmp-sky

here is the cframe flux for those three fibers:
tmp-153715

then, if I take for the 5000 fibers, the 24 ones with dec within +/- 0.01 deg of the line identified above, those consistently have very high fluxes:
tmp-all

@schlafly
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I know there has been a little discussion of using the new pointing camera information to identify and flag these (El Nino?). I haven't heard discussion of using the all sky camera to do the same. My impression is that the all sky camera doesn't have the precision necessary to identify the affected fibers a priori, though your investigation into the individual fluxes does look pretty convincing. 0.01 deg is pretty large relative to the PSF (36"); I'm surprised you see an effect that far away (for the most part).

FWIW, I think if we do something of this kind for LSS we should try to be a bit more systematic about it. Do you expect there are ~lots of examples of this?

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ashleyjross commented Nov 21, 2022 via email

@araichoor
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thanks both for the feedback.
I ll put on my to-do-list to make some proper comparison betweeen the measured flux in spectro. and the FIBERTOTFLUX in ls-dr9.
I ll tackle that later this week, or next week.

in the meantime, I can do this quick-n-dirty comparison, using FLUX_R_MED / FIBERTOTFLUX_R, ie the median spectro. flux in the r-camera divided by the ls-dr9 flux (so this doesn t account for the filter convolution; and maybe not for Gal. ext; but it should be right at the first order).
flagging objects with (OBJTYPE="TGT") & (FIBERTOTFLUX_R > 0) & (FLUX_R_MED / FIBERTOTFLUX_R > 1) nicely highlights the satellite track:
Screenshot 2022-11-21 at 10 50 58 AM

about my dist < 0.01 deg criterion: it s a rough estimate, as my "line" estimate is not precise at all (drawn by eyes on the three sky fibers; however, e.g. the one in the middle has a lower flux than the other two, which could mean that the "line" should be closer to the two external fibers than to the one in the middle..)

@araichoor
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ps: from watching the spacewatch movies, those happen mostly at the beginning/end of the night (as we expect), so it should mostly affect bright tiles, not dark tiles.

ps2: I agree that the spacewatch astrometry is not precise enough to get the fiber identification; I just used it as an indication that something s there; @ashleyjross s suggestion to compare spectro/photo flux should nicely work.

@araichoor
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another case here (though less obvious): https://desisurvey.slack.com/archives/C01HNN87Y7J/p1674458401818369.

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ashleyjross commented Jan 23, 2023

Can we try to make a list of all (probably) affected fibers, at least for Y1?

@araichoor
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I didn t have time to investigate, so I just mention here for book-keeping:
on 20230421:

  • tileid=4377 (expid=177284): there likely is a satellite crossing this exposure
  • tileid=22351 (expid=177289): there s a super-bright satellite passing just nearby; that s probably ok..

tmp-spacewatch-00177289-tileid22351-2

tmp-spacewatch-00177289-tileid22351-1

tmp-spacewatch-00177284-tileid4377

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another case in the dark tileid=2769 (expid=180742) on 20230514:

Screenshot 2023-05-15 at 9 07 33 AM

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